...earlier today i was reading from pretty much my favorite blog ever. the blog is about some single mormon guys that are my age that write all about their experiences with dating. in one of the posts it mentioned the rating of hottness of some particular girls. i am not a stranger to hottness ratings. i have categorized many-a-males in my life on the scale of 1-10 rating system....10 being the hottest, of course. duh. get with it, ya'll.
anyway, in high school my guy friend told me that there is no woman on earth that is a 10 on the hottness scale. i was ok with that...i get that...that's cool. but still i always wonder, wouldn't a boyfriend or husband think their woman is a 10? or do i just have my rose-colored glasses on?
i have always wondered where i fall on the hottness scale. i finally got so curious, especially reading the favy blog, that i texted ted. this is how it went down:
lauren: "i need a serious answer. if we didn't know each other and i just walked past you on the street, how would you rate my looks on a scale from 1-10? i need to know."
ted: "10. easy. i have always thought you were hot stuff."
lauren: "'bob' has always said there is no such thing as a 10."
ted: "shut up. who listens to 'bob'?"
he has a point. who really does listen to 'bob'? but seriously...let's discuss this. do you think significant others think someone is a certain level of hottness when they first meet, and then once they get to know them their hottness goes up? or do you think they are wearing rose colored glasses? or...are the guys lying just to make the girl feel better?
10.15.2009
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Sterling is so wrong. Halle Berry is a 10. Catherine Zeta Jones might be also. Crazy Sterling.
I equate hotness with purely physical features. So one couldn't get hotter just from me knowing someone better. Attractiveness is a different story. I am more attracted to my wife now than 10 years ago.
In case my wife is reading, I do still think she's hot, too. But her hotness hasn't changed over time.
Of course this is hypothetical, so I'd have to say Edward Cullen is a 10. Easy.
I think Omar's comment is pure genius.
Melissa...no one said guys can't be a 10. My friend said "girl's can't be a 10" hahaha!
I would say Paul Wesley is most def a 10.
I totally think the hotness scale goes up when you are married to the person, I don't think it has anything to do with rose colored glasses. I mean think about it, your husband sees you every morning when you haven't showered or brushed your teeth and he still wants to kiss you and he still thinks you're beautiful.
If the guy is lying to his wife about how hot he thinks she is, maybe they have other problems... I'm just sayin'
I agree that Edward is a 10... Peeta is a 10... and many otherrrrs lol.
But, yes I truly think no one is a ten... but I think when we fall in love and learn the ways of our significant other, they all go up in that department and appear more attractive too us... make sense?
Hmmm... velly intellesting...
I sorta agree with Sterling... I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect 10. It's just a matter of "is or isn't." Is he/she hot, or isn't he/she?
Paul Wesley is definitely a 10!
Ok, well, I have always thought Ted was a 10. A 10 to me is someone I couldn't imagine myself being anymore attracted to. Like, in high school I lusted after Ted. Yeah...I won't lie. I did. He was the hottness. I thought he was a 10.
And then he stepped off the plane when he got home from his mission and I was like...hmmm...maybe Ted was a 7 in high school because dang gina! he is a 10 now!
The hottness scale is so confusing!
Omar has this one down. Hottness has nothing to do with personality...it is only physical!
However, you can grow to be more attracted to someone because of their personality.
Like Robert Pattinson is a 10...if I talked to him for like 30 minutes he would probably be a 5...justsayin'
Amber - I think I would rather know the truth. I would rather know that I am a 5 or a 6. I want to know the truth! I wouldn't be sad if he told me that.
I think loving someone does affect the way you look at someone/view their looks... but I don't think that it's impossible to be a 10. And everyone has different tastes, too. Ted is just perfectly for you- and he thinks you're perfect!
So do you want to know how your readers rate you... or only your sexy hubby?
um. i am afraid that my open a can of worms.
Haha, the texts actually made me laugh...
I think some guys lie, others don't. I don't think it's necessary to lie just to please a girl. As long as things are said in a non hurtful way (I'm a huge believer in "There are ways and ways of saying the same thing."), there's no need to lie. I believe someone's hottness can go up after you get to know the person better. For example, it's difficult to rate someone who wears baggy clothes, isn't it?
(Oh, yes, I almost never leave a comment but I have been reading your blog for months. Shame on me, I know...)
Seriously, Sterling?
Rashida Jones
Jennifer Beals
Diane Lane
(Yikes, just realized that many of my 10s are over age 40.)
i would have to say there are some 10's out there. gonna have to disagree with sterling. don't listen to him. :)
about the husband thing...i truly believe that when my husband tells me i'm a 10 on his scale...he means it. that's not to say that i think i'm a 10...cuz i definitely don't think that's true. but i think that he believes i am.
however, i do also believe that a lot of that belief comes from the fact that he loves me so much. did he think i was "hott" the first time he saw me? yes. that's why he asked me out. but now...my "hottness" in his eyes has grown as he's gotten to know me better and fall in love with me.
i think that's the case with most couples.
think about you...back before you were married...you could see a really hott guy...go chat him up...realize he's a jerk and suddenly, he's not quite as attractive. similarly, some of the most attractive guys were also the nicest/funnest/sweetest/funniest/most spirtual ones. think there's a connection? i do.
Sterling sounds stuck up and like he thinks he is the shiz! haha. I think that people are initially attracted to someone and then depending on their personality their hottness can go up or down. Like there could be the hottest guy you have ever seen and you get to know him and he turns out to be a total butt! His hottness goes way way down! Or the other way around!
I've always thought the guy was lying to make the girl feel better.
BTW, I texted Tony to see what he'd rate me and he said "ten... what, is this a test?"
Omar...I am thinking Diane Lane is more like an 8. But yeah...Jessica is hot stuff. That is why she is with Justin Timberlake. They think their hottness can't be beat when they are together. It's true too.
Oh Lauren, you are definitely a 10! :)
Everybody has a different scale. I find my husband to be a ten, but that is not the case with a select few other girls, you know? Probably only like 3 in the world, but whatever. I'll bet their husband doesn't do dishes or clean toilets. Those two factors together make him a 20, by the way.
Sterling is crazy! There are plenty of 10's out there! Great debate question...I think hottness goes up.
...kinda starting to see why Sterling is single... I know that the deeper I fell in love with a man, the more wonderful he seemed and looked. Even plain "ordinary" guys become 10s when they are loved like that. And yes, Stefan is def a 10. So is RPattz but in not quite the same way. 10s come in all types! My first serious boyfriend was just the bomb dot com. Looking back, he really wasn't but to me he was.
that is all.
Aw so I had to try this on my boyfriend... I asked the same question and got
"A 10.. 11 depending on if I'm looking back at you"
But there are plenty of 10 girls.. plenty!
Silly analogy time:
Is it just like the Hunger Games? No one in history ever gotten a 12 from the gamemakers.
What now.
But we all know Peeta is a 12 in hottness.
Anyways, I think you can have a ten. And I disagree with Omar... hotness comes from the inside too :) IT REALLY DOES! TRUTH!
First of all thank you Lauren for introducing me to the epicness of that blog...
That being said I love scales. I use them for everything. How cute is my outfit? How cute is that pillow? etc.It's actually a family joke. When I first see/meet a guy I don't give him a number right away. I get to know him and based on the outward and inward appearance I give him a number. Of course it fluctuates,this being said I have never personally met(Paul doesn't count) a 10...but also I'm not married and fully expect my future husband(wherever he is..) to be a 10(at least in my eyes and I think that's what counts!)
Wait, STERLING said that? Can-of-worms-alert!
And I think Jessica and J-Timb broke up according to everyone saying he's with Rhianna now. Haha. Just kidding, I have no idea.
Omar is a genius. Just sayin'
I sent the same text to My Rock just now and he said "26 or so" I love that man! :D
I think that one person's 10 is another persons 5. It's all in the eye of the beholder and what not right?
Sterling just hasn't met his 10 yet. So he better watch out cause when he does...she's gonna knock him on his boo-tay!
Hmmm...this is a toughie. Honestly? I have often wondered about attractiveness and marriage. I remember a year or two ago "the smelly kid" from my high school married "weird, awkward girl" and it just seemed right. I always wondered if they thought that each other was attractive. I have come to the conclusion that there really is someone for everyone and that if you end up getting married you will probably think that your spouse is a 10 because you will be crazy about them. I think my husband has always been an 11. I think he is waaay better looking than me.
P.S. Don't get mad, and this is truly said with love because I have known you a loooooong time and I LOVE you. I was just surprised at that blog. I spent almost two hours reading on there and I was pretty shocked. And it takes A LOT to shock me. Seriously. I am the most liberal mormon I know. I mean one of my family members is gay for crying out loud. It is hard to offend me. I hope that some of the things on there were a joke because it scares me that "nice" mormon RMs are posting things like that. Now, maybe I am naive and just would rather not know what men are thinking...but I would sincerely hope and pray that my husband never thought about women like that. I found it a little degrading and depressing actually. Rating is one thing, but that? I won't be visiting that site again. I kinda wish you hadn't posted a link. I still <3 you though! And you can delete this if it hurts your feelings...but I truly didn't intend that. I just wanted to give the heads up that some other people may not like that blog.
I think the main point here is ALL scales of Hottness are PERSONAL VIEWS.
I personally have the same issue as Lauren...
I thought my ex Kevin was a 10, he had "flaws" in his features that drove me crazy in the carzy-about-you way... And as we fell more and more in love the bigger the 10 he got.
To me, I only date 10s in my scale but then again they all are 10s for different reasons...
Hm, just read that over... Does it make sense?
Anonymous, if you love me...I am assuming I love you too. *waves hi!* I'm not offended...you are entitled to your opinion :)
xo!
Thanks for understanding! You are the best! Maybe I just misunderstood the point of the blog...and I wish you would tell us what thrift store you go to! :) I am coveting your fall ensembs!
I will tell you if you email me :) Just cant have everyone stealing my stuff. haha!
My Fiance is known for combining "hotness" with personality. His friends always tease him about how high his standards are. I would never in a million years call myself a ten, but my fiance does. So maybe it does go up?
I think that a girl starts out at one # and after a guy gets to know her, her # goes up.
I asked my honey and he said I was a 10 not just b/c I was beautiful, but b.c he loves my personality and b/c I am great mom.
-KS
Isn't it so funny how scared guys are to ask a girl for her digits? Poor guy, I am happy for him though (for getting her digits). My question is, is she LDS? Hmmm...
As far as the hotness scale goes, I have never really been a fan. Because either the guys will lie to tell you what they think you want to hear, or they'll be straight up and tell you you're a 6 or 7 and they're comparing you to the gosh-dang-gorgeous movie stars. And let's be honest, it hurts my felling when the guy I like only thinks I'm a 6! :( I just avoid that question. (the hubby said I was a 10 though!)
But Lar I think you're a 10! Always have... your hair is ALWAYS so perfect and I totally use to covet you for that. haha :)
Now, with attitudes like that, it's no wonder those guys are still single. It's a typical immature thought process of men. I know they are your friends and I'm trying to berate them, however, they are simply wrong.
But I think people don't often agree on what is beautiful. Yes, attraction is EXTREMELY important in a relationship.
HOWEVER- I believe everyone's interpretation of beautiful is different, hence the old saying, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
A good friend of mine is engaged to a guy who is probably a good 40 pounds or so overweight, at least, has thinning hair, and in my opinion, isn't bad looking but just doesn't fit my idea of attractive. However, to her, he is the most handsome guy she's ever seen and that is all that matters- that she is attracted to him and vice versa.
Sterling and his buddies will figure that out when they fall in love. You don't fall for someone's appearance, it's just the icing on the cake which is the person that they are beneath the looks. :)
I think the scale is arbitrary. There are absolutely strangers, who, when they walk by, you think, "10!"
I was at a Ward FHE one night and saw a 10 walk in. I approached, asked him out and we dated for like 6 months. However by the end of the relationship I would rate him a 5... He is to this day probably the hottest guy I've seen in real life (http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8470/cougars.jpg) that's including Brad Pitt who is hotter on TV, but his personality was a little dull. He never had anything to talk about except how hot he thought I was. While that was fun for the first 2 months, it got old quick. I need more than just looks to consider someone a 10.
Also after reading some of their blog, I'm pretty shocked by their thought processes. It's kind of mind blowing! I hope they treat women better to their faces than they do behind their backs... seriously, since when is someone's appearance ALL that matters??
I think guys tend to be pretty honest when judging "hotness." I also think they tend to be pretty harsh, like the guys on that blog. Girls tend to be more generous when awarding hot points.
I bet the Lord thinks we are all a 10! Each of us, afterall is a masterpiece he has created. I know I don't want to judge something he thinks is perfect.
I think it's a matter of personal opinion. People have been trying to quantify beauty for a long time. It's hard. What criteria are you supposed to use?
That is the key to understanding the hotness scale: what criteria is used. Based on what I have learned from my male friends, "hotness" is sometimes equated with perfection.
But perfection doesn't exist, so what is the point???
haha i love your message in the leave your comment box. awesome. and sean probably lies to me about being pretty, but whatever. if he didn't lie i would probably cry. just kidding but seriously. i have thought about this too though. i think as you fall in love with someone, you start to appreciate certain physical characteristics of them more. they go up in the scale i think.. if it makes you feel better i totally think you are a total hotty in a non-lesbo way! im going to shut up now before you think im a creep...
I think that you might see a 10 and someone else see a 5... I think a lot of it has to do with what draws you personally in but that said for me I would say that peoples rating on the scale can go up or down really fast! I would say that there have been people that I saw and thought that they were like a 7 but after I got to know them they got bumped up a few points but then there are the others... I like to call them the shell people... You know like the Easter bunny that you get and think is solid chocolate and you take a bite and it's empty inside?! Yeah there have been a lot of people (cauz lets all admit it that we judge all people not just guys... we judge the chicks too and try to see where we sit on the scale) I have met that I thought were good looking but then they had an ugly personality(or none at all)and then they fell way down in the ranks...
I do have to say though people can be cruel!! My hubby's family puts a lot of weight on the ranking of others... Even his grandma once was all "is May's friend as cute as her?" and his mom was all like "well she's like a 4 but is a lot of fun"... I couldn't believe it! his sister was talking about her sister-in-law and was like "she's a 4 but she has a fun personality".... Yeah I couldn't believe it! I just think that it is sad that they are that lamespice!!
There is a "hotness" scale and we've all used it. I think my hubby is like, a 30! I'm insanely attracted to him, and that's all that matters. I don't care if the girl down the street only thinks he's a 4. that's why he's MY husband! IDK...I've never been the type to care what people think about me anyway. I've never cared if guys think I'm a 1 or a 10. I knew/know that to the one guy that REALLY matters, no number can be placed on my hotness level :)
If this doesn't make sense, I blame the Nyquil. I'm battling the flu. :(
I just read through the first page of the blog you linked, and it breaks my heart. Those guys seem to be so close-minded...they're probably cheating themselves out of some pretty fantastic girls. I have a friend who is THISCLOSE to being completely divorced, and it breaks my heart to think of her being out in this meat market they call the singles scene. And I'm so very grateful that I'm not out there. This is just my opinion. I'm sure the guys are great guys....maybe some of their priorities are just a little skewed?
I've definitely wondered the same thing about me and BF before. He thinks I have rose colored glasses for him, but I think my hottness reading for him is completely accurate!
Seriously, I was not attracted to my husband at first at all. I would of rated him a 5. But after our first date, I would of rated him a 7. After he proposed, he was a 10 in my eyes. I think he felt the same way about me. But for me hottness isn't just about looks. You got to have the personality also. My husband's brother's name is Bob and we don't listen to him either :-P
Holy rose covered glasses people. There are two seperate scales that I think everyone uses. The first is the "looks only scale". 1-10. 1's do not exist, no one is that ugly. 10's do not exist, no one is that perfect looking. This scale is sight only (there are small exceptions to the sight part, for example a high pitched or cat-sex sounding voice would drop someone on the Looks Only Scale as it has nothing to do with ones personality) this scale criteria is shallow and has zero to do with personality.
The second, and obviously more important scale is the "looks + personality scale". This is the one everyone keeps talking about. The way I do it is that personality can bump or drop an individual a maximum of 4 points from the "Looks Only." On the combined scale 10's do indeed exist.
I generally avoid dating girls who I think are below a 6 because, I want a 10. I will marry a 10. I have had equally strong feelings for a girl who was a 6 and then when I got to know her was so cool she became a 9. As I have had for the girl who was an 8, was pretty cool, cool enough to also be a 9.
True everyone has different taste, but there is a general concensious, as evidenced by our famous actors and actresses.
You're all kidding yourselves though, if you think you aren't judged and judge first by the Looks Only Scale, which I think from what I read was what you were asking in your post Lauren?
Most of us are 4-7's, sorry, that's just life. I would worry about being unpopular, but it looks from some of the comments as though that's already been achieved. Be the best 4-7 you can be, and some other 6 will find you think your a 10, and you'll think them a 10 too and you'll both live happily ever after.
That's just my opinion... which in my opinion is pretty spot on most the time.
I totally think Brandon is a 10, since the day we first met, 14 years ago.
The first time I ever saw Zach was at the Burnhams for game night. he walked in the door and I seriously just stared. Then I got nervous. And then he sat by me and I got even more nervous. He hhas always been a 10 from the moment I saw him.
hahaha what a funny post! there is def such thing as a 10. duh. haha. my mans a 10. No joke. hehe
I think there are definitely women and men who are tens on the hotness scale.
But I feel like "hot" is kind of a shallow word.
I know that's what everybody says when somebody is good looking, but I'd much rather be called beautiful. I think beauty encompasses everything about a person-physical looks, personality, intelligence, wit, strength...etc.. and hot is just about physical looks.
Just a thought. Love the blog!
Significant others are tens because we love them so much so they end up being more attractive. So, I guess the rating can go up after you get to know them. Don't you notice that when you get to know someone longer they become more beautiful to you if they are beautiful inside? I think it's cute when I talk to another married couple and one of them says something like, "I was not into him at all. I thought he was a nerd," and then they ended up together. It's adorable.
By the way, my husband was a 10 to me when I first met him on the school bus. I used to stalk him- literally! I saw him in the library on campus one day and went to that same exact spot at the same time and same day for weeks after that! Then I'd walk by his apartment with my friend Liz (she thought his roommate was cute) and we'd say, "Okay, laugh really loud so maybe they'll hear us and come outside." Once I got to know his personality and how sweet he was his "rating" went up in different categories too (not just looks, but sense of humor, etc).
Fun question and don't listen to 'Bob' listen to Ted. :)
First off lets point out that there are 2 different scales. The boys and the girls. If we are talking about a boys scale then no, I don't think his opinion of your number changes as he gets to know you better. Boys are just black and white like that.
Now as for the girls scale, everything is a factor. I have met guys I wouldn't rate so much as a 4, and then after I got to know them we go to prom together. I have also seen a guy who is a 10, turn himself into a 2 by just opening his foul mouth.
As for guys telling "white lies" to their girls, lets just coin the phrase, "Love conquers all." Even the scale.
i think it depends. i know people who weren't physically attracted to someone until after dating them. then i know some people who won't date people UNLESS they're physically attracted to them.
personally, i rate mr. stanford a 10 always and forever.
hollaaa.
i didn't think my hubs was a ten when i met him. he knew that i was attracted to him at first but NOW?? mm... when he's clean shaved and just had a hair cut, he could NOT be any hotter!! ow ow! :) it changed because my feelings for him grew stronger!
OMG - i am officially addicted. i read a few posts from the MBP blog and had to stop...and read them all...from the beginning. ahhh, this is so much better! thanks for the link!
I think it all can change, even for guys. and there is definitely such a thing as a ten, he just doesn't know
Wow, Sterling doesn't even think the girl on Michael Buble's video is a 10??? It's a little weird to have no 10's though, really...I wonder who'd he'd say is the closest.
Anyways, I kind of think that we are blessed to be attracted to the people we marry. So that we can keep the fire burning, ya know? That's one of the things I pray about sometimes, that we will always find each other attractive! I know that my hubby thinks I'm hot...I definitely think he is. But some people really truly don't think someone is hot after knowing them, and some people get to know them and think they aren't so bad anymore. True story. I don't agree that it's purely physical.
Also, I have to thank you for inspring my new pic you see...my sis took our family pictures, and I had seen one similar to this kissing pose, and LOVED it. So thank you!
And Jake's comment (from that blog, but on here) makes me laugh. It's true though, that we'll find someone who thinks we're hot. It's just being satisfied that our significant other thinks it even if no one else does. I don't know why, but that can be tricky sometimes!
i just stalked your blog for about 4 hours. not because i am a creepshow..but because it is 5pm on Friday (yahoo)...
thanks for entertaining me through the last 3 hours of my work week.
You are beautiful, stylish & funny.
That combo is so rare.
Enjoy & God Bless.
Katie Marie
http://katiemarie10.blogspot.com/
ok lots of boys say that No girl is a 10 and it is lame if you ask me!!! My own boyfriend told me this....however, that was like when we first started dating. i got pretty angry about it. He corrected it later in the relationship...said he didn't believe in a 10 til he not only saw me, but got to know me....after several months I grew on the scale. Haha not sure if I should believe him. Also what is the point of a rating system where a 10 does not exist??? If its not out there then why not rate 1 to 9...talk about unreasonable expectations. haha.
i'm not sure how i feel about the rating system... but if there is no real ten, why isn't it just on a scale of 1-9 then? it doesn't make sense that 10s don't exist...
but that blog that you linked to is freaking awesome! it's like "he's just not that into you" mormon style. lol.
Dear Lauren
Just wanted to let know know how much I enjoy your Blog. Would have never posted any comment, but my boyfriend thought I should, since I tould him about your blog (and he is not an internet-blog-person a all). You have to know that also people from other countries read your funny and wise comments on live. I am from Switzerland, so if you ever feel to travel that far, let me know, I will take care. Love, Nadine
amen to Omar.
However, my friends and I have two scales 1-10. One for looks, and one for personality, then we average the two together. A persons average can definately fluctuate once you get to know them!
I think you're a 10.
Do you think I'm a 10?
You better!
Oh and that blog is hilar, thanks for sharing!
Some people are automatically up there in the hotness scale, of course. But others, like The Hubs, take some time to get there. They have to grow on you. I was not attracted to Drew at all! Not one bit! But now he is most definitely a 10 on my hotness scale.
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